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Here's a "Hmmmmm!" thought for you.
12-05-2025, 10:25 AM,
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RE: Here's a "Hmmmmm!" thought for you.
My curiosity on this issue was finally piqued by all the former treaders that have weighed in. So, let's compare the gold standard (ASL) to our favorite platoon-size unit game. As an aside, I had avoided ASL like the plague until the late Daedalus (may he rest in peace) sent me an ASL Starter Kit for my birthday, after which we played that exclusively for a couple of years before his passing. But I digress....if one takes the Pz.IVH for comparison, it has 8 movement factors in PG and 13 MF in ASL. Looking at that based on the time scale and hex scale of each game, the German AFV would travel at 9.7 mph in ASL; this is calculated by taking the hex dimension of 40m x13 MF (520m) multiplied by 30 (since time scale in ASL is 2 minutes/turn). A similar calculation for PG, which has 200m hexes and 15 minute turns works out to a hair under 2.5 mph (5 hexes x 200m = 1000m; OK, I used 7.5 MF as the AFV can't use all 8 MF) multiplied by 4 time segments per hour. 
DISCLAIMER: I sure hope that all these calculations are correct; if not contact my grade school arithmetic teachers. 
So, the Pz.IVH is either much slower in PG, or we just have to accept that these movement factors are an abstraction. From reading about the norms of the day back then, the Germans used a 12.5 mph expectation during day and 7.5mph at night. This assumed some road travel, but allowed for tactical maneuvering, rest, repairs, etc. So, ASL may not be too far off, but PG definitely seems to underestimate tank speed with this particular vehicle. I'll leave to the game designers to do these calculations for every tank and scale actual speed to hexes, but my preference is just to go with the published stats and enjoy the game as developed, the assumption being that all scenarios have been extensively play-tested based on that MF value.
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RE: Here's a "Hmmmmm!" thought for you. - by Schoenwulf - 12-05-2025, 10:25 AM

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