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I think there is another hole...
08-19-2025, 05:30 AM,
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RE: I think there is another hole...
(08-18-2025, 07:55 AM)Blackcloud6 Wrote: Treat them like tanks.  Although the German assault guns were manned by artillery units, they were still formed into their own battalions thus they either are attached or simply ordered to provide fire support.  Their commanders would still position them and direct fires.
Oh my, another hair that must be split.
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08-19-2025, 05:31 AM,
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(08-19-2025, 02:43 AM)Grognard Gunny Wrote: Yeah, we fixed the problem now, but was it that way in 40-45? I think that there is a determined effort to "make over" some of the anachronisms into more modern warfare. If you want to play it that way...... fine, but it does not do justice to the times (WWII). Just sayin'.

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Oh please!
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08-19-2025, 05:43 AM,
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(08-19-2025, 02:43 AM)Grognard Gunny Wrote: Yeah, we fixed the problem now, but was it that way in 40-45? I think that there is a determined effort to "make over" some of the anachronisms into more modern warfare. If you want to play it that way...... fine, but it does not do justice to the times (WWII). Just sayin'.

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Another party pooper.

It's just a board game with holes in the rules, have some fun.
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08-19-2025, 08:03 AM,
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I believe you missed the point.

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08-20-2025, 06:13 AM,
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(08-19-2025, 08:03 AM)Grognard Gunny Wrote: I believe you missed the point.

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Not really.

The original point, in this now-lengthy thread, is that German STGs and Jagdpanzers WERE activated by both their OWN "tank leaders" and also local Kampfgruppe commanders - usually Wehrmacht infantry officers. Our house rule is historically correct and a useful addition, as an optional rule, IMHO.

No one is saying that any player must use it.
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08-27-2025, 01:54 AM,
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Yikes! This dialogue is reminescent of the line from the movie, Emma:

 "You have taken a small idea and run wild with it!"

The suggested house rule that the T-Rex posited is for turretless, self-propelled, German STGs and Jagdpanzer vehicles, ONLY. That would include the Marder, Hetzer, Nashorn and JgdPZ-I-V series.

This thread seems to indicate that self-propelled, Soviet, US, Italian and British assault guns need a separate treatment, especially the ones with turrets like the M-10, M-18 and M-36. It makes no sense to lump all these types together under the suggested house rule for the German side, IMHO.
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