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No Leaders!!!!! - Grognard Gunny - 05-20-2025
I seem to be having trouble getting my leaders to download in Vassel properly. About half of those leader files that I download come with all the pretty background stuff in them, but NO leader markers! (The fact that I get the background(s) in the files indicate that I am getting the file, but not the markers.) I absolutely cannot figure it out! Does ANYONE have an idea as to what is going on? I have exhausted my meager set of "fixes" and am at wits end. HELP!
GG
RE: No Leaders!!!!! - plloyd1010 - 05-20-2025
If you start a solo game, what do you see?
RE: No Leaders!!!!! - Grognard Gunny - 05-21-2025
We don't need to go back that far, when I set up (solo or on-line) all I get for about half of my loaded leader files is the aforementioned "bunting" (or background stuff) but NO "leader markers". When I try to put them into the set up, at any rate.
GG
RE: No Leaders!!!!! - Grognard Gunny - 05-21-2025
The system worked just fine for me up until you did the rework on the files (I guess that was about a couple of months ago). Then I began noticing that my Leaders were "missing" (but the files were there) in a couple of games. So, I deleted My files and started over with the ones that I needed for the game(s) I was playing. That's when I really noticed the missing "leaders". Maybe my question should be.... what did you change that might have caused this abnormality? (... and I'm NOT trying to blame anyone, just trying to find a cause and (perhaps) a cure.)
GG
RE: No Leaders!!!!! - plloyd1010 - 05-21-2025
The only things I have done is to rename files to games in which they were reimplemented. For example, Battle of the Bulge leaders got renamed to Dragon's Teeth and Eastern Front Deluxe got renamed to Fire in the Steppe. I didn't change the extension ID's, so if you have an old game leader extension and a new game extension, there could be a problem. The other thing I did was to delete base images and put all the leader images on one layer (which is always active). This is to prevent 2 translucent layers being stacked when the leader is hidden (otherwise it is hard to read the numbers).
Have you got extensions like:
- Australian Afrika Korps and Kokoda Campaign leaders?
German or Soviet Eastern Front Deluxe and Fire in the Steppe leaders?
German or Soviet Road to Berlin and Fire and Sword leaders?
German or American Battle of the Bulge and Dragon's Teeth leaders?
Japanese Guadalcanal and Kokoda Campaign leaders?
Polish White Eagles and Deluge leaders?
RE: No Leaders!!!!! - Grognard Gunny - 05-21-2025
I dumped all the old files and started over and it ended up with the same files "missing" the leaders. Now THAT is frustrating! I asked T-Rex to send me a set of files that re so affected over e-mail. Just to test the case wherein it might be something in my computer..... and so it goes.
GG
RE: No Leaders!!!!! - plloyd1010 - 05-21-2025
One other note, I've been doing all the updates with Vassal 3.7.8. If you are using something older, you should update.
RE: No Leaders!!!!! - Grognard Gunny - 05-23-2025
Got Vassel 3.7.8, CHECK.
GG
RE: No Leaders!!!!! - plloyd1010 - 05-23-2025
(05-23-2025, 03:08 AM)Grognard Gunny Wrote: Got Vassel 3.7.8, CHECK.
You can later versions of Vassal, it's the older versions that would be a problem. I think some of the oldest extensions were made with Vassal 3.2.17, but that only applies to a couple of the map extensions anymore.
Did you find any old to new name mixups for the leader and air extensions? Here is a list of all the ones I know of;
Ldr Australian Afrika Korps -> Ldr Australian Kokoda Campaign
Ldr British Afrika Korps -> Ldr British Africa Orientale Italiana
Air German Eastern Front Dx -> Air German Fire in the Steppe
Air German Road to Berlin -> Air German Fire & Sword.
Ldr German Battle of the Bulge -> Ldr German Dragon Teeth
Ldr German Eastern Front Dx -> Ldr German Fire in the Steppe
Ldr German Road to Berlin -> Ldr German Fire & Sword.
Ldr Indian Desert Rats -> Ldr Indian Africa Orientale Italiana
Air Italian Desert Rats -> Air Italian Africa Orientale Italiana
Ldr Italian Desert Rats -> Ldr Italian Africa Orientale Italiana
Ldr Hungarian Road to Berlin -> Ldr Hungarian Fire & Sword.
Ldr Japanese Guadalcanal -> Ldr Japanese Kokoda Campaign
Air Polish White Eagles -> Air Polish The Deluge
Ldr Polish White Eagles -> Ldr Polish The Deluge
Air Romanian Eastern Front Dx Exp -> Air Romanian Armata Romana Exp
Air Romanian Eastern Front Dx Std -> Air Romanian Armata Romana Std
Ldr Romanian Eastern Front Dx -> Ldr Romanian Armata Romana
Air Soviet Eastern Front Dx -> Air Soviet Fire in the Steppe
Air Soviet Road to Berlin -> Air Soviet Fire & Sword
Ldr Soviet Eastern Front Dx -> Ldr Soviet Fire in the Steppe
Ldr Soviet Road to Berlin -> Ldr Soviet Fire & Sword
Ldr US Battle of the Bulge -> Ldr US Dragon Teeth
If you have any of the older named extensions, just delete them. It is also best practice to only have extensions active for the game you are playing.
RE: No Leaders!!!!! - Grognard Gunny - 05-23-2025
OK, went through the list and did as directed. All seems well now. Thank you ever so much for the fix. (Now I can replace my hair that I was tearing out.)
GG