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RE: Is the Panzer Grenadier Series Dying? - plloyd1010 - 10-12-2018
I don't disagree with anything that Matt or Ottavio have said, what seems to missing is how to get the buying populace interested. Often in BGG forums, I have suggested looking at PG when it comes to WW2 grand tactical. The usual response from those who looked at the series and didn't buy, or bought a game and then sold off, has been customer service is tedious and lack of Vassal/online support. Don Greenwood or Frank Chadwick, some such (I don't remember which), said that they believed half of the players of a given game, didn't own the game. APL seems to have issue with that model. I think that is why online gaming is so poorly supported. I don't know if it is too late, but if Mike woke up tomorrow deciding to endorse Vassal play, but keep scenario support in the company, I think there would be a healthy bump.
I do like the like the obscure scenario track that APL has taken. I've fought over Stalingrad for ages, but hadn't heard much about the Mars offensive until Tank Battles. The fact that the new expansions are limited to needing the support of only one boxed game is good.
RE: Is the Panzer Grenadier Series Dying? - lizardaudio - 04-20-2025
I voted for the option that the price is too high, and the other reason is the lack of transparency in sales. I've recently been interested in the Pacific Islands Package which offers a relatively good price for purchasing Jay's designs, but I'm not sure if AP will ship them, which makes me very hesitant. On the other hand, companies that can ensure customer service have prices that are too expensive.
RE: Is the Panzer Grenadier Series Dying? - Juiceman - 04-21-2025
Wow, this thread was stated back in 2018, not much has changed with AP I see.
As for price or cost being too high, I look at the Value of the game not necessarily the cost, what do I get for that price, to me PG delivers for the most part on a good Value Proposition, you get a lot for your money, at least the older titles, not the rehash stuff they are pushing today.
PG is a scenario-based game system, many battles are lopsided (to be expected), they seem to follow the same theme or VC, which gets boring after a while. What is needed is a campaign system, similar to what is found in Cassino, and a way to design your own scenarios but under the current situation doubt that is going to happen.
There are plenty of new games coming out or on the market today, from other more friendly and supportive game companies.