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[Rules] AT fire *during* assault
03-28-2014, 06:32 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-28-2014, 06:33 AM by vince hughes.)
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RE: AT fire *during* assault
(03-28-2014, 06:01 AM)larrymm Wrote: This came up during a RtB scenario: 2 Soviet INF (5 DF), 1 ATR (3 DF/1 AT), 1 Lt. activate for FIRE in a hex adjacent to a GE PzIIIG. The Soviet units all move into the Pz's hex for Assault. Because this is an Assault, my understanding is that only DF factors are used (13 total) and the attack is resolved on the Assault Table. So far so good...I think. Here are my questions:

1. As the activation is for FIRE, can the ATR unit move into the Pz's hex with the other units but attack with its 1 AT factor on the AT Fire table instead of contributing its 3 DF factors to the mandatory Assault? [not saying this is advisable, just is it permissible]

2. In subsequent turns, assuming all starting units survive, can the ATR activate for FIRE and attack with AT while the INF units activate for FIRE and Assault as a separate attack?

3. If the Pz initiates an Assault in its activation, can the ATR return fire using its AT factor on the AT Fire Table while the INF units use their DF on the Assault Table?

The RtB SSR cover infantry AT weapons in assault for German units, but not for the Soviets. It seems to me that ATR units should have some special benefits that better reflect their historical effectiveness; though even being able to use 1 AT factor in an Assault would not be quite sufficient.

1. Yes

2. Yes

3. Yes

4. ATR units still can only fire ATR's as per AT fire in an assault or use their DF value as per normal assault. The Soviets have no decent INF AT weapons. ATR's were fine against early war vehicles but will always struggle against later PzIII's and IV's and above.
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AT fire *during* assault - by larrymm - 03-28-2014, 06:01 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by vince hughes - 03-28-2014, 06:32 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by Matt W - 03-28-2014, 06:44 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by vince hughes - 03-28-2014, 07:20 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by campsawyer - 03-28-2014, 07:31 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by larrymm - 03-28-2014, 07:52 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by Hugmenot - 03-28-2014, 08:55 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by larrymm - 03-28-2014, 09:00 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by vince hughes - 03-28-2014, 05:11 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by Hugmenot - 03-28-2014, 11:54 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by tlangston28 - 03-29-2014, 12:12 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by vince hughes - 03-28-2014, 04:46 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by larrymm - 03-28-2014, 07:31 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by campsawyer - 03-28-2014, 07:48 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by campsawyer - 03-28-2014, 09:41 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by richvalle - 03-28-2014, 11:49 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by larrymm - 03-28-2014, 12:04 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by richvalle - 03-28-2014, 12:05 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by larrymm - 03-28-2014, 12:13 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by Hugmenot - 03-29-2014, 05:27 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by campsawyer - 03-29-2014, 07:06 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by zaarin7 - 03-29-2014, 07:40 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by vince hughes - 03-29-2014, 08:21 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by larrymm - 03-29-2014, 12:12 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by rerathbun - 03-29-2014, 12:31 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by rerathbun - 03-29-2014, 12:25 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by larrymm - 03-29-2014, 12:29 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by Hugmenot - 03-29-2014, 12:31 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by vince hughes - 03-29-2014, 06:27 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by larrymm - 03-29-2014, 12:44 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by zaarin7 - 03-29-2014, 04:21 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by vince hughes - 03-29-2014, 06:20 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by vince hughes - 03-29-2014, 07:32 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by Matt W - 03-29-2014, 10:43 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by vince hughes - 03-30-2014, 02:59 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by campsawyer - 03-30-2014, 04:16 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by vince hughes - 03-30-2014, 06:08 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by campsawyer - 03-30-2014, 01:12 PM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by larrymm - 04-01-2014, 01:04 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by larrymm - 03-30-2014, 07:09 AM
RE: AT fire *during* assault - by joe_oppenheimer - 03-30-2014, 08:02 AM

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