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PG Games We'd like to buy
06-29-2012, 11:02 AM,
#21
RE: PG Games We'd like to buy
Of course, don't forget about each of the beaches for Normandy. Also could include the paratrooper drops as well.
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06-29-2012, 11:10 AM,
#22
RE: PG Games We'd like to buy
(06-29-2012, 11:02 AM)beast013 Wrote: Of course, don't forget about each of the beaches for Normandy. Also could include the paratrooper drops as well.

Ok. Any cartographers here? At PG scale how big (hexes / geomorphic maps) would one beach be?
...came for the cardboard, stayed for the camaraderie...
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07-02-2012, 03:58 AM,
#23
RE: PG Games We'd like to buy
Doing some rough math and taking into account the historical objectives for the first 24 hours versus the historical gains, I offer the following based on the 200 meters/hex:

Utah Beach
9km x 9km equals 45 x 45 hexes

Omaha Beach
8km x 6km equals 40 x 30 hexes

Juno/Gold
21km x 15km equals 105 x 75 hexes

Sword
12km x 12km equals 60 x 60 hexes

Cassino maps are 26 hexes by 19 hexes, so you would need about:
Utah - six maps
Omaha - four maps
Juno/Gold - 16 maps
Sword - six maps

Again rough measurements based on historical planned objectives for day one.

From a map perspective, not bad. For the supporting counters, that would be huge.

Kevin


(06-29-2012, 11:10 AM)Shad Wrote:
(06-29-2012, 11:02 AM)beast013 Wrote: Of course, don't forget about each of the beaches for Normandy. Also could include the paratrooper drops as well.

Ok. Any cartographers here? At PG scale how big (hexes / geomorphic maps) would one beach be?
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07-02-2012, 07:58 AM,
#24
RE: PG Games We'd like to buy
Oh wow, great job!

(07-02-2012, 03:58 AM)beast013 Wrote: From a map perspective, not bad. For the supporting counters, that would be huge.

Kevin

Yeah, I hadn't even started considering that. You'd have an absolutely monstrous set-up ahead of you.

Not much diversity in the OOB too, I'd wager? At least for the initial waves of landing.
...came for the cardboard, stayed for the camaraderie...
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07-02-2012, 08:57 AM,
#25
RE: PG Games We'd like to buy
For me Op Market Garden would be my No1 choice, my favorite western front WWII battle.
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07-02-2012, 09:05 AM,
#26
RE: PG Games We'd like to buy
Thinking about it a little more, the counter count may not be that bad. Assuming about 110 counters per division (using Panzer Lehr as a template), we would need the following:

Allies - six divisions (seaborne invasion) for about 660 counters.
Allies - three divisions (airborne invasion) for about 330 counters.

Germans - five divisions and a few regimental-sized forces - let's say another 660 counters.

Cassino comes with 660 counters (looking at a comparision), so it seems within the realm of possibility, especially if each beach/airborne drop was handled as a stand-alone game.

Kevin



(07-02-2012, 07:58 AM)Shad Wrote: Oh wow, great job!

(07-02-2012, 03:58 AM)beast013 Wrote: From a map perspective, not bad. For the supporting counters, that would be huge.

Kevin

Yeah, I hadn't even started considering that. You'd have an absolutely monstrous set-up ahead of you.

Not much diversity in the OOB too, I'd wager? At least for the initial waves of landing.
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07-02-2012, 09:26 AM,
#27
RE: PG Games We'd like to buy
For the larger battles, they would need generic maps.
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07-02-2012, 05:48 PM,
#28
RE: PG Games We'd like to buy
I think perhaps a map-set, scenarios and MAYBE a few D-Day relevant counters is all that is necessary for these battles and therefore it can be sold in a grip-bag.

Most of the units can all be drawn from sets already out there.

I'd be very surprised if there was a box for each beach produced, they'd be way too samey I think ?
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07-02-2012, 05:58 PM,
#29
RE: PG Games We'd like to buy
What if they did a one-off mega scenario supplement on one of the beaches? Include 2~4 maps + an additional countersheet and play your very own 400 turn scenario! ;-)
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07-02-2012, 06:39 PM,
#30
RE: PG Games We'd like to buy
(07-02-2012, 05:58 PM)Shad Wrote: and play your very own 400 turn scenario! ;-)

400 Turn ... That's only 4 days. I was hoping for a scenario that went all the way to the end of August !!! That way you could inccorporate all the Normandy supplements (BN, BSS, PL) into a mega-supplement ...... kind of a gestating supplement if you will. 400 turns is for wimps Undecided
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